help please, butcher?

[colamiser]

 

i am running 600w dimmable ballast at 300 right now. Which i am runing an 400 cu foot exaust thru to cool the light. i am in a roughtly 80 square foot space. plenty of exuast however airlflow could also have contributed due to lack of fans circulating air in the cab. Temps can get a little high in my current space up to mid to high 80s and some times into the low 90s very rare.
My medium is botanicare coco.

For nutes i am using trinity, oregonism, and budswell bat guano.
i am aprox a month into veg and these fuckers are yellowing they have slightly burnt tips culing down and the yellowing is on the newer growth now the lower leaves of the plant are much greener.

Now the main factor of my yellowing i feel is my ph. my water is terribly alkaline. the night before i water mix all nutes according to bottles going half strength on the budswell ph it down to around 6 sometimes higher sometimes lower as this aids in nutrient uptake.
after i mix i let sit over night with an air stone in it and then water the next day i do always check the ph again before i water to make sure it hasn't swung.

now the last time i watered i phd down to 5.2 to try to swing my cocos ph back down around 6 but my runnof ph came out around 7
i am having what i think is a major ph problem cananyone give me any insight about what oculd be causing this.
also i didn't flush my coco could this be the cuase i do not know about botanicare.

thanks in advance.

i don't think i can post attachments yet so lets discuss i am concerned that the oregonism and the bubling might have something to do with it.

[Butcher Bob]

 

Kinda outta my zone....but let's give it a shot, hopefully others will join in.

Light - Why a "dimmable" ballast? HPS or MH? Looks like this is fine though.

Air - Exhaust...wut ya usin? Circulation...wut you usin? Almost always room fer improvement here.

Water - Wut is yer source fer water? Have you ph'd & ppm'd it?

Food - Wutz in the soil to begin with? Wut has been the schedule & amounts used fer feeding so far?...give N-P-K values of each.

We kin start with that basic info, and then expand from there.

[Captain Murphy]

 

Originally Posted by colamiser

For nutes i am using trinity, oregonism, and budswell bat guano.
i am aprox a month into veg and these fuckers are yellowing they have slightly burnt tips culing down and the yellowing is on the newer growth now the lower leaves of the plant are much greener.

Well the trinity and oregonism aren't doing much without a complete nutrient regiment, and budswell (0-7-0) is not a complete nutrient. You need to supply all the elements as the coco has none.

If you like roots organic get some of there base ferts, buddha grow and bloom. (they may still require some supplementing with cal/mag) Or better yet, if your into organic, learn to build soil and use teas.

Originally Posted by colamiser

Now the main factor of my yellowing i feel is my ph. my water is terribly alkaline. the night before i water mix all nutes according to bottles going half strength on the budswell ph it down to around 6 sometimes higher sometimes lower as this aids in nutrient uptake.
after i mix i let sit over night with an air stone in it and then water the next day i do always check the ph again before i water to make sure it hasn't swung.

now the last time i watered i phd down to 5.2 to try to swing my cocos ph back down around 6 but my runnof ph came out around 7
i am having what i think is a major ph problem cananyone give me any insight about what oculd be causing this.
also i didn't flush my coco could this be the cuase i do not know about botanicare.

You answered your own question here. Get a RO filter to fix your hard water, over time the water leaves its minerals in your medium, which is probably causing your high ph.

[sfzoo]

 

few things:

coco doesn't always need to be washed. there are a few threads on other sites that discuss the differences between brands. I am not sure on botanicair but i know that Canna coco can be used straight out the bag.

We need a bit more info, just answer bobs Qs and we can better assess the situation.

i also agree that you need a good base program, not just addititves.

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with the limited info, without pics, i'd say your running a bit hot on the nutrients. Burnt tips indicates over fert, the nutrients move to margins of the leaves and start to burn under the light.
too much nutrient buildup around the roots will eventually cause lockout of those nutrients and others. It should be said that pH instability will also cause nutrient unavailability. The fact that the new growth is yellowing suggest to me that there is some sort of lockout which is preventing the new tips from getting proper doses of food.
In my experience, pH fluctuations tend to manifest itself in leaf troubles before nutrient troubles. what i mean is, i'll generally see leaf curl, cupping, twisting, or other physiological distortions before i see any nutrient troubles.

it could be anything really, without the more details its hard to say.

[DerErlkoenig]

 

I agree. Drop all the bs additives and just use a 1 part grow food like GH flora series in veg. You definitely don't need bloom booster in veg. RO or distilled water would help you keep your ph more stable, but it isn't impossible with tap water. Just keep monitoring your solution and your runoff and try to get that stabilized. Then a light grow feed regimen and you'll be fine. They don't need all that much in veg so keep it simple.

[conrad_420]

 

Originally Posted by DerErlkoenig

I agree. Drop all the bs additives and just use a 1 part grow food like GH flora series in veg. You definitely don't need bloom booster in veg. RO or distilled water would help you keep your ph more stable, but it isn't impossible with tap water. Just keep monitoring your solution and your runoff and try to get that stabilized. Then a light grow feed regimen and you'll be fine. They don't need all that much in veg so keep it simple.

is the flora veg organic? i dont think so? ro makes water ph more unstable, its science dont argue, you dont need a bloom booster in veg but it does help in early veg because plants like potassium to form roots. fuck monitoring your runoff and shit. just ph your water to 5.7 and water it in. USE ROOTS ORGANICS BUDDHA GROW AND BLOOM.
DO NOT CUT BACK ON ALL YOUR NUTES. cut back to like 10ml grow, 10ml trinity,ive been using these products for years i know what im talking about. if your trying to do it organic stop using pure coco and switch to a hp coco blend, like Roots Organics GreenLite.

[conrad_420]

 

Originally Posted by DerErlkoenig

I agree. Drop all the bs additives and just use a 1 part grow food like GH flora series in veg. You definitely don't need bloom booster in veg. RO or distilled water would help you keep your ph more stable, but it isn't impossible with tap water. Just keep monitoring your solution and your runoff and try to get that stabilized. Then a light grow feed regimen and you'll be fine. They don't need all that much in veg so keep it simple.

Trinity my friend is not a "bs" additive. this is new school organics. not oldschool put shit in your dirt and see how it turns out organics.

use trinity and buddha grow in veg, its all i use pretty much, besides some humic acid, and some cal-mag in late veg.

Does nobody understand what trinity is or how amazing of a product it is?

however flowering is a different story. use deuce deuce late in flower to get dense ass rock hard nugs, use some phos guano teas in bloom for enhanced flavor, and use bio-bud for an overall organic bloom booster.

[steppinrazor]

 

Originally Posted by colamiser

i am running 600w dimmable ballast at 300 right now. Which i am runing an 400 cu foot exaust thru to cool the light. i am in a roughtly 80 square foot space. plenty of exuast however airlflow could also have contributed due to lack of fans circulating air in the cab. Temps can get a little high in my current space up to mid to high 80s and some times into the low 90s very rare.
My medium is botanicare coco.

For nutes i am using trinity, oregonism, and budswell bat guano.
i am aprox a month into veg and these fuckers are yellowing they have slightly burnt tips culing down and the yellowing is on the newer growth now the lower leaves of the plant are much greener.

Now the main factor of my yellowing i feel is my ph. my water is terribly alkaline. the night before i water mix all nutes according to bottles going half strength on the budswell ph it down to around 6 sometimes higher sometimes lower as this aids in nutrient uptake.
after i mix i let sit over night with an air stone in it and then water the next day i do always check the ph again before i water to make sure it hasn't swung.

now the last time i watered i phd down to 5.2 to try to swing my cocos ph back down around 6 but my runnof ph came out around 7
i am having what i think is a major ph problem cananyone give me any insight about what oculd be causing this.
also i didn't flush my coco could this be the cuase i do not know about botanicare.

thanks in advance.

i don't think i can post attachments yet so lets discuss i am concerned that the oregonism and the bubling might have something to do with it.

You got some serious Mag and Cal deficincies if you aren't supplementing a coco with cal mag. As much as more traditional soil less medium grows require cal mag, coco requires it even more due to the naturally lower pH of the pith. Since it has a lower pH, root tips are facilitating more cationic exchange, meaning more cations being lost taken from medium into the plant. (calcium and magnesium are cations)

hope this helps.